tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post8667300742936558789..comments2023-03-24T02:15:36.268-07:00Comments on Race @ Rhodes: White Man Dead, Black Man Standing... It Must be MurderDoctor Jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13189506916480012553noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-28703253538751315982009-04-30T09:14:00.000-07:002009-04-30T09:14:00.000-07:00Is the stereotype you had in mind the idea that "m...Is the stereotype you had in mind the idea that "minorities, especially African-Americans, will inject the issue of race into any almost topic, usually a smoke screen tactic to ultimately achieve personal objectives (i.e. winning the case)?"B Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896899738793941282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-2113701904702736482009-04-30T08:56:00.000-07:002009-04-30T08:56:00.000-07:00I don't think it necessarily shows covert racism, ...I don't think it necessarily shows covert racism, but it seems to be a "We go to Yale, let's see how much we can get away with" type thing. I know a guy who goes to Yale and he would say stuff like this all the time, even to black people, and was actually extremely popular throughout our vast majority black school. The thing is he would say such things extremely sarcastically so that what he said might be completely racist, but what he was implying was the opposite (or was it?). I can just picture all these Yale kids laughing before the trial for a really long time at this theme. I wasn't there so I don't know if this reading could be correct, but it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. That being said, its incredibly frustrating that a mock trial team, from Yale of all places, would be so inconsiderate and, really, almost outright hateful.Cameron Goodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16198088819816171244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-47839187981889593422009-04-30T08:50:00.000-07:002009-04-30T08:50:00.000-07:00I agree with Steven on this one. Although the team...I agree with Steven on this one. Although the team may have overstepped its boundaries, they certainly succeeded in drawing immense attention to their cause. Sure, they exploited racial tensions, but the fact that they were able to and that people felt so strongly about it only perpetuates the assumptions people have about race. If I were on the team I wouldn't have participated in such a theme, but they evidently accomplished their goal as the judges probably had these same thoughts on their mind throughout the trial.obrienthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17129159404699132915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-44359361396437446922009-04-30T08:15:00.000-07:002009-04-30T08:15:00.000-07:00I was also at the mock trial tournament and was pr...I was also at the mock trial tournament and was privy to yale's unorthodox interpretation of the case and it just goes to show how prevalent racial tensions still are. Yale acted with the knowledge that the theme that they choice would inspire interest and ultimately play to their advantage, despite the fact that the case materials said nothing about race as a school is supposed to be able to put a person of any sex or race into a particular role. This example is just indicative of the fact that either race can exploit racial tensions or presuppositions.Steven Strasberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03566981219877828043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-60675858251032546732009-04-30T08:08:00.000-07:002009-04-30T08:08:00.000-07:00I am very surprised as well, especially because Ya...I am very surprised as well, especially because Yale was the team that gave that title and had the witnesses. I think the title itself presents the covert racism in society now and the actual races of the witnesses just make that stereotypical claim worst. As Courtney said that IV league schools usually encourage diversity so instead of enforce racial equality, the team for Yale decided to draw attention to it. This type of covert racism will continue until people can to terms openly with the fact that each person is racist in some way, hence we should face it rather than keep having such secret, racial stereotypes.Manalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705569791546856423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-25693411184215976922009-04-30T06:20:00.000-07:002009-04-30T06:20:00.000-07:00I am equally shocked.
This is a bit of a tangen...I am equally shocked. <br /><br />This is a bit of a tangent, but the title of your post immediately reminded me of “The Color of Blood,” an interesting article I read about a year ago in The New Yorker. The plot of the article, quite literally, is “white man dead, black man standing…it must be murder.” Anyway, the article questions the role of “race memory” in the killing of a teenager.<br /><br />http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/03/080303fa_fact_trillin?currentPage=allShannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04698378138690618558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-3926675705912657722009-04-30T00:15:00.000-07:002009-04-30T00:15:00.000-07:00I'm actually pretty surprised by this as well. I'm...I'm actually pretty surprised by this as well. I'm pretty tired atm, so maybe my thoughts will be clearer on this by tomorrow. But I'm not sure quite what you mean by saying its indicative of covert racism. While their approach is definitely controversial--as you said, there was nothing in the prompt that would have suggested trying this route--and startling, I don't immediately see how it necessarily buys into "the status quo and the stereotype" (maybe I'm just not thinking of a specific stereotype that applies here?). Maybe it's just a lack of details (things the Yale team said that indicated racism) or as I said I might be too dense/tired at the moment.B Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896899738793941282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7429957022890272915.post-57418255837829355672009-04-29T22:50:00.000-07:002009-04-29T22:50:00.000-07:00I find this hard to believe and am equally as take...I find this hard to believe and am equally as taken back. Many of the Ivy League schools pride themselves on their racial diversity and strive to be viewed as an institution accredited to many ethnicities. Before I knew there were black men on the team, I had assumed the majority would be white. It really surprises me that they were able to pride themselves at this national competition with a claim not even implying racial undertones, but blatantly stating a racial comment. The fact they continued to do so well in the competition significantly shows the racism that still exists. I know we would all like to believe that our culture has changed, but this goes to show there is still a long way to go. The people affected and influenced by this are the youth of our nation, not to mention some of the brightest students in the United States.Courtney Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01672811182810545212noreply@blogger.com